Do Fathers For Justice perform a useful role or are they just extremists?

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Asked in justice, uk asked on: 03/26/2006 12:01pm

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Gigaroth

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116 minutes after the question was opened (03/26/2006 01:56pm)

like the free womans rights and abortions things, they have there real causes and there extremists, its just a natural area of the hurt cycle you see, and the hurt cycle has numerous conditions of how the human responds to the crisis of loosing ther children, FFJ has a worse record than most because even the founder is a complete **** and i sympathise with ther cause, i know 2 of my mates who in divorse went to their dads side so i dont see the beef

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3 hours after the question was opened (03/26/2006 02:26pm)

I make no claims for the rightness or otherwise of their cause, but they've certainly brought it into the spotlight.

In a sense they've served a useful purpose by showing just how disenfranchised people are, and how to bring attention to any cause you might want to champion - they couldn't find a way to bring about a change in the law by going through official channels, or by organising legal, conventional protests, so they dressed as Batman and climbed Buckingham Palace. And now everyone knows who they are, so although they haven't actually got the law changed, they've at least got people talking about their cause.

Basically, if you want to bring about a change in the law, don't lobby your MP, organise a march or try to arrange meetings with officials from the relevant ministry - that all takes too long and will probably amount to nothing. Instead, dress up in a silly costume and climb something you shouldn't climb, or chuck things at Blair from Strangers Gallery, or whatever. Fathers for Justice, along with groups like the Countryside Alliance, are showing the way forward - intelligent discussion of issues will be abandoned, to be replaced by the politics of the publicity stunt. The groups that can shout loudest will be the ones who are noticed.

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3 hours after the question was opened (03/26/2006 02:42pm)

I agree with much of what Gigaroth wrote. I think FFJ employ shock tactics rather than really attempting to cause harm which was no different to the tactics employed by the Suffragettes back in 1897 when Millicent Fawcett founded the National Union of Women's Suffrage.

As to whether FFJ perform a useful role probably depends on your viewpoint. I think many Father's feel the current scales of the legal system in this country are tipped in favour of women and whilst many inroads have been made into addressing women's issues, few have been made to address those of men.

One of the interesting points that I read a couple of years back concerned the department responsible for dealing with sexual discrimination. Of all the funding that was being provided in training courses, promoting equality in society and pursuing cases of discrimination, not one single penny was being spent to provide any form of support or assistance to men! That has now changed, but without wishing to sound judgemental, with such blatant hypocrisy, is it any more of a surprise that Men’s Movements came into existence in the same way that Women’s Movements were born back in 1897?

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