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Health tourism? your views?

It would appear that West Middlesex hospital in London (a very good hospital BTW) Has adopted quite a severe policy to addressing the problem of visitors to the UK abusing the NHS system.
I would consider it quite reasonable to restrict services available to those who have not contributed to the system but think this perhaps goes to far.
They are insisting on payment at point of treatment ( and I quote " will not accept cheques") or they will stabalise and discharge.
This means people who have suffered heart attacks may be discharged within 48hrs although the normal period is 10days and the patients are from a clinical point of view to ill to leave.
So what are your views?

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Asked in politics, opinions asked on: 04/30/2008 12:50am
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3 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 03:37am)

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I think it's a bit extreme, to eject people in need of treatment, if they are from overseas. There are thousands of people from this country who contribute little to the economy ( long-term unemployables, jailbirds, to name but two ) but get all the treatment they need if they fall ill. Each case should be judged on its own merits, as many plan a trip in order to get treatment, I'm sure, whereas many are not planned. Then again, it's the actions of some that will affect those overseas visitors who don't try to abuse the NHS system. It's the same in many aspects of life: you give people an inch and they take a mile. Many of the problems in our society today stem from shortsighted greed and little concern for our fellow man ( or woman ).

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3 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 03:43am)

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I think that it's a good idea to make people pay if they haven't contributed anything to it. At the same time I recognise that some people can't pay cash : perhaps there could be some contract that they could sign to agree to pay by the month or something similar : a hospital has plenty of ways of identifying people ; digital camera, DNA et c.

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4 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 04:01am)

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It appears that the abuse of the system is severe, and the appropriate response needs also to be severe. Those who enter the country, especially illegal immigrants, should have no right to draw on services paid for by citizen taxpayers.

Yes, from a humanitarian point of view a portion of those would-be freeloaders will suffer. Heart attack victims will be stabilized and then turned out, well before they should be from a strictly medical point of view. In most cases, that is more than they would have gotten in their home countries -- where those without the ability to pay for medical services just die in the gutters.

British citizen have no responsibility to pay for unlimited medical services, for people who have entered the nation -- at least in part -- to take advantage of the social and health services which the nation makes available to its citizens.

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6 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 05:53am)

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The answer to this is fairly simple, when you think about it: Make it an entry requirement, to produce Medical Insurance, capable of covering any cost of treatment. Most entrants to the UK will have that anyway, at least the responsible ones.

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6 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 06:06am)

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I agree. Nobody would think of going to the USA without medical insurance ... for exactly the same reason. The same would happen there, you'll get the minimum treatment possible and sent on your way. At some hospitals, if you have no cover, you might be refused and sent to another. We should treat our visitors just the same. As blacksmith said, make it a condition of entry if necessary.

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9 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 08:54am)

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One big problem regarding the medical insurance documents is that they would presumably be issued by the source country, which may not be English speaking.

There have been numerous instances in the local media recently where foreign drivers have been involved in accidents, but their foreign insurance documents haven't been decipherable to the UK interested parties.

Even once the insurance companies have been identified and contacted, they are showing an unfortunate tendency simply to ignore claim letters from the UK and other countries.

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12 hours after the question was opened (04/30/2008 12:06pm)

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Everyone in the country deserves free health care, If the person is on holiday then they too should be able to pay a one off fee covering for anything that may happen like a medical insurance scheme so to speak. If they do not get the insurance then if they need to receive treatment they still get it but are hit with the full whack. In order for this to work though their country of origin has to be signed to agree that the UK can recover the costs despite being away from the UK.

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